I'm gonna piss off a lot of people (especially those sensitive about the topic) with this post, but I'm gonna say it anyway. Call me ignorant for not understanding. Go ahead.

click [here] for the article.

Yes, it was horrible that it happened in a church. Yes, a death is terrible. That's not what I'm going to post about now though.

What the fuck. You fucking pricks. How dare you accuse us of discriminating against you, how dare you point your fucking fingers at us and accuse us of keeping you at the low end of the socio-economic scale when you pull this fucking shit? Huh? How dare you even CONSIDER that our unceasing discriminations aren't in the least your fucking fault?

You're not strong enough to rise above what OTHER PEOPLE consider you to be, and so you point fingers. You choose to stay where you are. And you fucking blame those who are middle-upper class?

Back when I used to coach bball, I had a colleague who had dropped out of school. He happened to be black. You know what one of the black kids on his team said to him?

"Shit why'd you go and do that for? We already have a bad rep as it is."

I couldn't have said it any better.

And I'm not talking about just blacks here. Please don't misinterpret my example, cuz that's all it was. An example that I remember well and found fitting.

I'm talking about any bastard who goes around running his mouth about being discriminated, and then straight up goes and wreaks havoc. Kids who cause problems in the classroom and then turn around to feel that the teacher's picking on them, kids who talk shit about their parents not trusting them and then go and sneak out of the house at 3am. People at work who cuss at the boss for not giving them a raise when they CLEARLY did not do the spectacular work to earn the raise.

You fucking tool. What else do you expect people to think??

I'm not saying that they caused the discrimination, so don't even try to hammer on me about that point. I'm talking about the asses who go and ruin it for everyone, but still bitch about being marginalized. Fucking IDIOTS.

I'm done man, you guys got something to say? Say it. Be it you agree or disagree. I'm up for a good discussion.

  posted by MsKarenAu @ 2:34 PM

 
well with regards to change n all that, it happens, sure. and of course, we meet new people, shit happens between friends, but at the end of the day, who are the people we can turn to? what is it that we value on THAT PARTICULAR DAY? it changes over the months, over the years, sometimes even over the weeks, but vusan, i suppose you just gotta take things day by day.

in my opinion, so what if things change? all the better. gives life an amazing amount of variety, always something interesting to do, to think about. you can't be prepared for change, because you don't know what it is that's gonna change. my guess is that it all depends on the attitude you have while you face these changes, while you face these haywire situations. if you despair about change, if you see it as preventing you from grabbing a secure footing, then you'll just find cause for driving yourself towards depression, because that feeling of lacking control over your life is the worst feeling in the world. falling into chaos, so to speak, and you can't do anything about it.

we're all here. and we all need to survive. using that floating metaphor of yours pa, yes we are all just floating on waves that roll over and over again, each wave different every time, and maybe a tidal wave will come and hit us once in a while, even a tsunami. but what are you gonna do but float? tread and keep afloat? take it one kick at a time, one breath at a time, and be happy that your head is still out of the water.

things change, shit happens, but there is no way to happiness. happiness is the way. corny quote from souza, but i find it works to keep me sane. so many things happen, situations change in an instant, but you gotta embrace it all and just deal with it, grow with it.

and that is all i can say without reiterating.

  posted by MsKarenAu @ 11:45 PM

 
“To love is to suffer. To avoid suffering one must not love. But then one suffers from not loving. Therefore to love is to suffer, not to love is to suffer. To suffer is to suffer. To be happy is to love. To be happy then is to suffer. But suffering makes one unhappy. Therefore, to be unhappy one must love, or love to suffer, or suffer from too much happiness. I hope you're getting this down.”
-- Woody Allen

Now that that's settled, moving onto the heartache business, which is indirectly related to the aforementioned quote. Aside from the physical/medical condition heartache, which is clear enough and if it isn't, Kay has made it plenty clear in the previous post. Now the other kind of heartache. I guess having one means firstly that something has happened that has struck a chord on something you feel very close to. I'll take it as given that it's negative. But a heartache is more than just feeling sad, it's the sorrow of something being taken from you that you know can't ever be properly replaced. It's not the tears, it's the lack of tears you wish you could start flowing because the tears are an outlet. A heartache has no outlet... it's something that only heals with time because we forget. Only time... unseen... unspoken... only felt. I don't even know if this makes any sense.


  posted by JW @ 10:26 PM

 
I think a heartache occurs anytime something happens that gives you that weird, uncomfortable, tightening sensation in your chest. There are varying intensities of heartaches. Some are -- literally -- a dull ache in their chest area that may physically be explained by a slight strain of the heart. Others describe extreme heartaches to feel like the heart itself is being torn in half.

Typically, heartaches a result of very sad events. For example:

- losing a loved one through death, breakups, or the severing of communication of any form
- losing an object that has a sort of special meaning, like a wedding ring (not as bad as above)

Heartaches can also happen when a sudden realization takes place that brings a sort of disadvantage to the heartbroken, or shakes up their reality in a harsh way. For example:

- realizing that your mother/father/sibling really isn't your mother/father/sibling
- realizing for the first time that the one you fancy doesn't fancy you back
- realizing how helpless you are, and that this world is a cruel, cruel world, and there's nothing you can do about it
- realizing that your significant other/close friend has cheated you

Keep in mind that the inability to visit Hawaii during the summer does not count as a cause for a heartache. THAT is just mere disappointment.

For some people, heartaches bring them tears of desperation. For some, it's just a lump in their throat that won't go away until their heart has healed a bit. For others, it's a pain so great that it is almost unbearable. Sometimes, heartaches will lead to depression, or even suicide (that's only if the person's fucked up in the first place.. but that's a shitload of psych that I won't get into). Sometimes, it will lead to smart epiphanies that in turn become a lifelong lesson learned.

Love is pain. Pain is love. The heart is made to ache. Why else are heart attacks so common?

I'm done. That was rather technical and boring.. someone else say something.

Do it. Do it.


  posted by MsKarenAu @ 11:09 PM

 
Too quiet! New question to be answered: what does it mean when you have a "heartache"?


  posted by E.C.tasy @ 1:08 PM

 
Well said, I think you've proved your point better than the last time we were talking about it.

  posted by JW @ 11:45 PM

 
Jon, u know i ask that question and therefore "yes, that question is damn straight fair". The words "i love u" can be strong, powerful, and capture a world of emotions. They can mean so much or so little. So, if anyone is gonna let those words come outta their mouth, i hope they mean it and know what it encompasses. Although "love" does not mean the same thing to everyone, i think it should be made clear wtf people mean when those words come out of their mouth. For example "i love you. now will you sleep with me" or "i love you. thats for making me feel special" u get my drift? So, the question "why do you love me?" tends to clear up any possible misinterpretations by giving me an insight on what the hell is going on inside their brain. i think its like that true or false question: all is fair in love and war. Say what u want but mean what u say. Know what u are saying.

  posted by E.C.tasy @ 3:25 PM

 
"Why do you love me?"

Is that a fair question? Mind that I'm not asking whether or not it's a valid question; it is. Is it reasonable to expect a clearly defined answer?

  posted by JW @ 11:19 PM

 
As quoting from Intangible Reverie:

Where does justice end and vengeance begin?

Read the following. Comment on it. This is where I got it from.

we have all these laws and rules for justice to be served rightly. yet, most people who go through something traumatic and survive don't make much of them. we stay quiet. we try to forget. it's a feeling that is only understood by those that have gone through it. it's a feeling that our loved ones don't understand.

everyone seems like they want to fight our battles for us because we have already been through so much. everyone wants vengence and justice. everyone says that it should be taken through the courts. and, while everyone is all riled up about doing this and doing that thinking it will make us feel better, they don't see the person turn quiet and just shy away from it. they don't see the pain in the person's eyes, nor do they notice the person just shutting everything out.

do you know what it's like to be that person? to have been put through hell and then have everyone forcing you to deal with it? it's not fun. because all you want to do is move on and go about your day like nothing happened. until that moment comes when someone forces you to cope with it.

people call us the 'silent victims' because we say nothing. we do nothing. then some get mad because they see it as we don't want anything to be done... as we aren't looking for justice.

you're right. we don't want to be bothered. because, if it had never happened, we wouldn't have to be going thru this interruption in our life. it's nice to pretend that nothing happened. that life is normal.

you can talk about suing or putting someone in jail. that's all fine and dandy. but when it comes down to it, it's not enough.

i had a friend ask me a few weeks ago, "don't you want to do something? he has to pay." i sat there in silence with not too much of an answer. well, nothing i could put in words at least.

of course, i have always wanted something to be done. i have always wanted to take out my vengence. for 3 years, i have kept that feeling. it's not a matter of wanting to do something. it's a matter of being able to do it. in my opinion, laws and courts and paperwork and jail time... it's not enough. and, i don't think the pain i would have to endure thru it is even worth the outcome. it's not that i'm not angry. i'm furious if i think about it. it's not that i'm not hurt. the healing process is always on going.

going through the legal system is not worth the time, the energy, the pain. you know what i want? i want to be able to make him feel the pain and the suffering i endured. i want him to go through what i went. i want him to worry about his own health and if his future would change in an instant. i want him to worry about the welfare of his loved ones because threats were placed on them. i want him to go through the pain in worse ways and have it destroy him slowly day by day. just so he could experience it.

justice and vengence are two different words with different meanings... but the question now is, where does justice end and revenge begin?

Post away!

  posted by MsKarenAu @ 9:02 PM

 
Actually, I would think that the most energetic part of your life is under the age of 9. Man, kids can run all day without getting tired. But yeah, point well taken.

  posted by JW @ 10:47 PM

 
It's fair.
I think the bottom line in physical education is staying fit for life. According to stats, North American kids are overweight, not so healthy, lalalalala. By stiffening the system, ur level of fitness can be more precisely assessed. And like ya said jon, u need training. Go to the gym, play more outdoors, do ur pushups when u can. These are oppourtunities to be healthy. U need these outlets to stay healthy. Additonally, u need these marks to pass. The marks are attainable and their standards are accurate. If you're unfit, u fail. If ur healthy, u pass. It works: be fit and pass.
Physical education as such gives kids a motivation to make exercise/fitness apart of their lifestyle. Get their time figured out so that they can balance work and exercise. God knows u can't run 20 laps around a soccer field in 12 minutes without training. But u can with. Another thang: "the teen years are a time when u are the fittest/most energetic of ur life". If u stink now, its gotta be serious cardiac fatty issues when ur like... 35. So, make the treadmill etc. apart of your life. If ur not gonna do it for u, do it for the grades.
So, forcing kids to be fit is for their own good. The marks are a motivation.

  posted by E.C.tasy @ 3:31 PM

 
Ok, using whatever feeble powers I have I'm going to try to revive this blog. Alright we all know that elementary Phys. Ed. is (or used to be when we were in elementary) somewhat of a breeze because elementary usually focuses on playing sports, getting active, and having fun. And your Phys. Ed. mark is usually based on how much effort you put into playing a sport... and if you have any sense of "fun" that's usually not a hard thing to do (heck, we played sports in elementary during recess anyways). Then we hit highschool. For most schools, grade 10 Phys Ed. and above is optional so disregarding that for a minute, we get to Grade 9 Phys. Ed. So now it really boils down to it and Phys. Ed. while still fun, can be somewhat grueling and it's harder to get a good mark because marks are based on achievement opposed to effort. I personally have never had a problem with this (which is why I'm still taking Grade 11 Phys. Ed.) but looking back, I was wondering, should our fitness mark be as rigid as it is? The gap between elementary and highschool Phys. Ed. is QUITE big and most people are caught off balance when suddenly their passing mark depends on them being able to do 27 pushups, 3 pull-ups, and run 26 laps in 12 minutes. I mean, since Grade 9 Phys. Ed. is mandatory, you get some people who are just physically unprepared when they enter highschool to perform well enough to pass fitness tests. Yes, you can improve, but that takes a good amount of time... and 1 semester usually isn't enough to raise your fitness mark by a terribly CONSIDERABLE percentage. I mean ok, after taking Phys. Ed. for the 3rd year, 27 pushups, 3 pull-ups and 26 laps in 12 minutes is easy but that's only after 3 years of training. So, fitness marking scheme: fair or no?

  posted by JW @ 10:50 PM

 
I would reply too but I never really followed the Osama bin Laden, 9/11, Iraq War ting very closely cause the whole world's corrupt and you can never find information that isn't warped in some way to gear your mind to one side instead of just stating all the facts. So I'm not going to comment knowing full well that I know nothing about this topic, or close to nothing in any case.

  posted by JW @ 10:00 PM

 
I would reply, but I don't have time to research for THIS too. I'll try to put in my two cents soon though.

Cot damn someone else say something.

  posted by MsKarenAu @ 11:20 AM

 
It's hard to define the entire population of private school kids, because the ones I know personally are not snobbish, stuck-in-the-mud-with-their-nose-up-in-the-air type of people. My roommate came from an all-girl's private school in Vancouver, namely the best school in BC, and probably has all the money in the world, but she's a generous, down-to-earth person. Mind you, she's very sheltered too, but who isn't, in this rich, developed country of ours?

I don't know the rich snobs, probably because they're too stush to talk to me anyway. Regardless, I've seen them walk around thinking they're the so called hot shit, so they definitely do exist. "I rock this joint cuz daddy bought me a BMW for my first car. I own this school cuz mommy gave me a civic to decorate for my 16th birthday."

Oh those people exist. More so in private schools than public schools cuz there's more rich kids in private schools. I'm not categorizing all private school kids to be that way though.

  posted by MsKarenAu @ 9:50 AM

 
Hmm, so do private school kids fit the private school stereotype. Well let's see. In my opinion, I'm not rich, snobby, arrogant, holier-than-thou, a jerk, sheltered, not down to earth, or a pain in the ass. I know several other people who aren't that way either so I guess no, I don't agree with the stereotype. There probably ARE some people who fit that description, but I'll bet there are people in the public school system that fit that descripition too so whatever. Besides, if you think of it really, who really does the choosing of whether someone goes to private or public school. More often than not it's the parents. And by the time the kid is given a choice of whether or not he or she wants to go to public school, he or she's usually settled into the private school situation and is lazy to move... unless the kid's going through hell, which is a different matter.

  posted by JW @ 10:20 PM

 
What's the private school stereotype?

You must've saw that question coming.

  posted by JW @ 10:27 PM

 
*smack*

(sound of Kay slapping her forehead in disbelief)

  posted by MsKarenAu @ 11:38 PM

 
Actually, I frowned a bit and thought "I thought she would know better" but explained it anyways.

  posted by JW @ 11:19 PM

 
Wow. I completely missed that.

By the way, I hope my lame attempt to be annoying didn't cause you to feel obliged to explain to me what a = b actually meant. I took grade 12 calculus and am definitely not afraid of math. Please tell me you at least shook your head or snickered at my jab.

  posted by MsKarenAu @ 1:05 AM

 
Ok ok, but first let me clarify a little bit. Kay, a and b are just variables so for the equation I was just saying "let a = b" as a variable assumption. It's the same as saying "let n = number of apples" in any algebraic equation. The fallacy is this: (a² - ab) is actually equal to 0. From that point on, you can see that the next part states "divide both sides by (a² - ab)" But if you know your math, you know that you can't divide anything by 0. You can even try plugging it into a calculator and it'll give you an error message.

  posted by JW @ 10:32 PM

 
whoa. thatz a fuck up to foundations.

  posted by E.C.tasy @ 6:07 PM

 
But Jonathan! Whoever said that a actually equals b?

I dunno. Just tell us the damn fallacy cuz if that's not it, then I don't know what is.

  posted by MsKarenAu @ 5:02 PM

 
a = b
a² = ab
a² + a² = a² + ab
2a² = a² + ab
2a² - 2ab = a² - ab
2 (a² - ab) = 1 (a² - ab)
divide both sides by (a² - ab)
2 (a² - ab) = 1 (a² - ab)
therefore:
2 = 1

Makes perfect logical sense doesn't it? Ah, the results of sitting in philosophy class for 75 minutes every day. Find the fallacy.

  posted by JW @ 11:32 PM

 
"All is fair in war and peace."

That's false...

War, in a way, is like a game. Let's say it's like a basketball game. There has to be ground rules no matter what. There has to be grounds for decency. You're fighting for the ring, the pride, the victory, but there has to be restrictions to what you can do or else it'd just be chaotic.

In the same way, if you're fighting for peace, I don't know what you people think, but the end doesn't justify the means. You need to do things with the least damage and devestation possible, all the while being efficient and effective. Dirty fighting ie: being unfair in the war is a nono.

That's the socialist in me talking. Your turn.

  posted by MsKarenAu @ 12:55 PM

 
True or false? All is fair in war and peace.

  posted by E.C.tasy @ 2:48 PM

 
As my theory goes, we can't possibly know everything. We're limited human beings with limited capabilities. Sure, we can strive to learn more and more and more and more, building upon what we know, but this universe is so vast, so endless. It's insane to think we can figure everything out, ESPECIALLY with science.

Then again, there are many different types of sciences.. well actually I don't see how that applies, because my theory stands. We can't possibly understand everything. There. Done and done.

  posted by MsKarenAu @ 5:57 PM